308 WIN barrel length shortening test | Blaser R8 barrel shortening in 2.5 cm steps | energy loss and bullet velocity
308 WIN barrel length shortening test: A cartridge ideal for short barrels | shortened Blaser R8 barrel lengths or V0 Determination of barrel shortening - simply calculate energy loss!
The Cartridge 308 Winchester is ideally suited for silencers - especially reloaders can optimise a lot of performance here
Silencer (SD) unfortunately lengthen the long gun and, in the case of higher silencer weightand the point of impact by changing the barrel oscillation. Some Overbarrel silencer are also only a compromise - although they create a More damper volume - However, the performance in the overbarrel area is very low in comparison.
The best effect is achieved with the right internal geometry and an ideal volume about the Total length of the silencer achieved. If you still want to keep the gun SHORT, this is only possible with a short barrel. The .308 Win calibre is ideal for this.
It is designed for short runs, has a Enormous power in relation to the size and as a rule (except for long runs) a Fast-burning powder (very High degree of powder conversion in gas of as good as 100%). One 30-06 with short barrel is not useful, as the progressive powder burns outside the barrel (or in the silencer).
Kinetic energy online calculator HERE Calculate flight curve yourself HEREConclusion for the reloader: In practice, this means that Shooting with 308 Win. from short barrels is possible without loss of performance possible. The use of coordinated labours with offensive burning NC powderWith the use of a special bullet, adapted bullet weight and powerful primers, short barrels between 460 and 510 mm are possible without any problems.
The following equipment was selected for the 308 Winchester Test with speed measurements used
- Blaser R8 Weapon with 308 Winchester barrel
- 4 different factory ammunition
SAX MJG 120,5 grs: Batch No: M0021.1 202207
EVO Green 139 grs: Batch no.: 2408644 / 68OP
GECO Express 165 grs: Batch No: 2317804 / 47SR
Hornady ELD-X 178 grs: Batch No: #3221191 - MagnetoSpeed Mounted on the barrel for speed measurement (chronograph)
- For the Blaser R8 barrel shortening test from 56 cm to 46 cm, the barrel was always sawed off by 25 mm - measured from the overpressure bore - after each shot series
Series of pictures from the speed test in our Pistol shooting range
Table Overview of the results of the barrel shortening - and measured V0 bullet velocities
Barrel length in " | cm ⇒ V0 at 308 Win | SAX MJG 120.5 grs - m/s | EVO Green 139 grs - m/s | GECO Express 165 grs - m/s | Hornady ELD-X 178 grs - m/s |
22 | 56,00 | 941 | 879 | 791 | 781 |
21 | 53,50 | 949 | 880 | 795 | 785 |
20 | 51,00 | 936 | 872 | 782 | 771 |
19 | 48,50 | 927 | 859 | 775 | 766 |
18 | 46,00 | 918 | 851 | 753 | 759 |
Averaged, mean V0 loss m/s per 2.5 cm barrel shortening | V0 became faster, then slowed down | V0 became faster, then slowed down | V0 became faster, then slowed down | V0 became faster, then slowed down |
Graphic: Overview of barrel shortenings - and measured V0 bullet velocities
308 Winchester details incl. graphics calculated according to energy loss and bullet drop at various barrel lengths (Hornady Ballistic Calculator) and distances
SAX MJG 120.5 grns | energy loss and bullet drop [cm] with different barrel lengths (Hornady Ballistic Calculator) and distances
Velocities were determined - starting from V0 - in each case using the Hornady Ballistic Calculator
SAX MJG 308 Win MJG 120.5 grs
Batch no.: M0021.1 202207
Bullet weight: 7.81 g
BC value: 0.403
Room temperature: 17°C
Barrel length Inch | Barrel length cm | V0 | Drop | V100 | Drop | V200 | Drop | V300 | Drop | V400 | Drop | V500 | Drop |
22 | 56 | 941 | -5 | 862 | 0 | 788 | -8,5 | 718 | -33,4 | 651 | -78,3 | 589 | -148 |
Energy Joule | 3458 | 2902 | 2425 | 2013 | 1655 | 1355 | |||||||
21 | 53,5 | 949 | -5 | 870 | 0 | 795 | -8,3 | 725 | -32,6 | 658 | -76,6 | 595 | -145 |
Energy Joule | 3517 | 2956 | 2468 | 2053 | 1691 | 1382 | |||||||
20 | 51 | 936 | -5 | 858 | 0 | 784 | -8,7 | 714 | -33,8 | 647 | -79,3 | 585 | -149,9 |
Energy Joule | 3421 | 2875 | 2400 | 1991 | 1635 | 1336 | |||||||
19 | 48,5 | 927 | -5 | 849 | 0 | 776 | -8,9 | 706 | -34,7 | 640 | -81,3 | 578 | -153,6 |
Energy Joule | 3356 | 2815 | 2351 | 1946 | 1599 | 1305 | |||||||
18 | 46 | 918 | -5 | 841 | 0 | 768 | -9,3 | 698 | -35,7 | 633 | -83,3 | 571 | -157,4 |
Energy Joule | 3291 | 2762 | 2303 | 1903 | 1565 | 1273 |
EVO Green 139 grs results | energy loss and bullet drop [cm] with different barrel lengths (Hornady Ballistics Calculator) and distances
Velocities were determined - starting from V0 - in each case using the Hornady Ballistic Calculator
EVO Green 139 grs
Batch no.: 2408644 / 68OP
Bullet weight: 9.00 g
BC value: 0.332
Room temperature: 17°C
Barrel length Inch | Barrel length cm | V0 | Drop | V100 | Drop | V200 | Drop | V300 | Drop | V400 | Drop | V500 | Drop |
22 | 56 | 879 | -5 | 788 | 0 | 703 | -11,3 | 624 | -343,3 | 550 | -102,4 | 483 | -197,2 |
Energy Joule | 3477 | 2794 | 2224 | 1752 | 1361 | 1050 | |||||||
21 | 53,5 | 880 | -5 | 789 | 0 | 704 | -11,2 | 625 | -43,2 | 551 | -102,1 | 484 | -196,6 |
Energy Joule | 3485 | 2801 | 2230 | 1758 | 1366 | 1054 | |||||||
20 | 51 | 872 | -5 | 782 | 0 | 697 | -11,6 | 618 | -44,3 | 544 | -104,5 | 478 | -201,2 |
Energy Joule | 3422 | 2752 | 2186 | 1719 | 1332 | 1028 | |||||||
19 | 48,5 | 859 | -5 | 770 | 0 | 686 | -12,1 | 607 | -46,0 | 535 | -108,5 | 469 | -208,8 |
Energy Joule | 3320 | 2668 | 2118 | 1658 | 1288 | 990 | |||||||
18 | 46 | 851 | -5 | 762 | 0 | 679 | -12,4 | 601 | -47,10 | 529 | -111,0 | 464 | -213,6 |
Energy Joule | 3259 | 2613 | 2075 | 1625 | 1259 | 969 |
GECO Express 165 grs | energy loss and bullet drop [cm] with different barrel lengths (Hornady Ballistics Calculator) and distances
Velocities were determined - starting from V0 - in each case using the Hornady Ballistic Calculator
GECO Express 308 Win 165 grs
Batch no.: 2317804 / 47SR
Bullet weight: 10.70 g
BC value: 0.404
Room temperature: 17°C
Barrel length Inch | Barrel length cm | V0 | Drop | V100 | Drop | V200 | Drop | V300 | Drop | V400 | Drop | V500 | Drop |
22 | 56 | 791 | -5 | 721 | 0 | 654 | -14,4 | 591 | -52,6 | 532 | -120,5 | 478 | -225,9 |
Energy Joule | 3347 | 2781 | 2288 | 1869 | 1514 | 1222 | |||||||
21 | 53,5 | 795 | -5 | 724 | 0 | 657 | -14,2 | 594 | -51,9 | 535 | -119,0 | 481 | -223,1 |
Energy Joule | 3381 | 2804 | 2309 | 1888 | 1531 | 1238 | |||||||
20 | 51 | 782 | -5 | 712 | 0 | 646 | -14,9 | 583 | -54,2 | 525 | -124,0 | 471 | -232,3 |
Energy Joule | 3272 | 2712 | 2233 | 1818 | 1475 | 1187 | |||||||
19 | 48,5 | 775 | -5 | 705 | 0 | 639 | -15,2 | 577 | -55,3 | 519 | -126,6 | 466 | -237,2 |
Energy Joule | 3213 | 2659 | 2185 | 1781 | 1441 | 1162 | |||||||
18 | 46 | 753 | -5 | 685 | 0 | 620 | -16,5 | 559 | -59,5 | 502 | -135,8 | 451 | -254,2 |
Energy Joule | 3033 | 2510 | 2057 | 1672 | 1348 | 1088 |
Hornady ELD-X 308 Win 178 grs | energy loss and bullet drop [cm] with different barrel lengths (Hornady Ballistics Calculator) and distances
Velocities were determined - starting from V0 - in each case using the Hornady Ballistic Calculator
Hornady ELD-X 308 Win178 grs
Batch no.: #3221191
Bullet weight: 11.50 g
BC value: 0.552
Room temperature: 17°C
Barrel length Inch | Barrel length cm | V0 | Drop | V100 | Drop | V200 | Drop | V300 | Drop | V400 | Drop | V500 | Drop |
22 | 56 | 781 | -5 | 729 | 0 | 680 | -13,8 | 632 | -49,3 | 587 | -110,2 | 544 | -201,2 |
Energy Joule | 3507 | 3056 | 2659 | 2297 | 1981 | 1702 | |||||||
21 | 53,5 | 785 | -5 | 733 | 0 | 684 | -13,6 | 636 | -48,7 | 590 | -109,0 | 547 | -198,9 |
Energy Joule | 3543 | 3089 | 2690 | 2326 | 2002 | 1720 | |||||||
20 | 51 | 771 | -5 | 720 | 0 | 671 | -14,3 | 623 | -50,9 | 578 | -113,7 | 536 | -207,4 |
Energy Joule | 3418 | 2981 | 2589 | 2232 | 1921 | 1652 | |||||||
19 | 48,5 | 766 | -5 | 715 | 0 | 666 | -14,5 | 619 | -51,7 | 574 | -115,5 | 532 | -210,7 |
Energy Joule | 3374 | 2940 | 2550 | 2203 | 1894 | 1627 | |||||||
18 | 46 | 759 | -5 | 708 | 0 | 660 | -15,0 | 613 | -53,0 | 568 | -118,1 | 526 | -215,4 |
Energy Joule | 3312 | 2882 | 2505 | 2161 | 1855 | 1591 |